tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post115333890335296274..comments2023-05-12T04:18:21.875-04:00Comments on Googling God...: Why the Church considers Homosexuality disorderedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post-1153794413953641742006-07-24T22:26:00.000-04:002006-07-24T22:26:00.000-04:00Again, just to caution us to be accurate, the Chur...Again, just to caution us to be accurate, the Church's reference to "disorder" solely means an objective inability to procreate without intervention, not disordered in the typical psychological way the term is used.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11984922178492683577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post-1153481518922732372006-07-21T07:31:00.000-04:002006-07-21T07:31:00.000-04:00Agree totally about the lazyness of the MSM. As a...Agree totally about the lazyness of the MSM. As a former producer in radio myself I often tell people who are trying to place stories in the MSM that they "Have to think like a lazy radio producer and call them on a slow news day, or when their story hits the fan on day one."god googlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08406526986427583673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post-1153423828024134182006-07-20T15:30:00.000-04:002006-07-20T15:30:00.000-04:00Another excellent point out of Sean! I don't thin...Another excellent point out of Sean! I don't think that I'm arguing for a change in church teaching on the issue by any means. But rather, there needs to be a more nuanced way to discuss the topic instead of resorting to the old media depiction of Catholics as middle-aged, gay-hating, conservatives named Chuck.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure that the pre-disposition genetic argument works in this case though. Just because someone is pre-disposed to become an alcoholic doesn't mean that they will certainly become an alcoholic. If someone has an inherent attraction to members of the same sex--it's a lot different than deciding not to have a beer...or even trying beer for the first time.<BR/><BR/>Agree...disagree?god googlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08406526986427583673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post-1153401465736851862006-07-20T09:17:00.000-04:002006-07-20T09:17:00.000-04:00Excellent point, Lisa. While the act of homosexua...Excellent point, Lisa. While the act of homosexuality is what the church considers intrinsically disordered--the catechism also admits to the "psychological genesis of homosexuality remaining largely unexplained."<BR/><BR/>Therein lies the crux of the issue, thinkest I. If we could explain the genesis of homosexual attractions could we then perhaps have an opportunity to discuss the morality of such "acts of homosexuality" differently despite the obvious lack to procreate naturally. If we find the genesis (good luck at THAT, BTW) might that lead to many unanswered questions about homosexuality that could lead people to see the church's point as being a definitive truth--or we could find the opposite and need to re-think our position in order to proclaim a continued moral position on sexuality.god googlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08406526986427583673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19680942.post-1153364578250855392006-07-19T23:02:00.000-04:002006-07-19T23:02:00.000-04:00Actually, while your point is arguably logical, it...Actually, while your point is arguably logical, it is not accurate. "Disordered" in the world of the Church is not equivalent to "disordered" in the world of psychology. In the context of moral theology, wherein "disordered" is a moral theological concept, "disordered" has to do with the ability to procreate naturally within a couple. So where the text of the church references homosexuality as "objectively disordered" it is "only" saying that, in and of itself without outside intervention, a same sex couple cannot between the two parties naturally conceive a child.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for raising the discussion point.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11984922178492683577noreply@blogger.com